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Re: Banned

Postby tytung » Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:42 pm

symbuzzer wrote:Sometimes I think about other devices forums too. For example nexus one and desire hd. And mayba a HD2 General forum for which not about directly android.

It's almost impossible to attract people who own other devices to come to this forum.
Unless there're useful ROMs and something for them.

For example, the Desire developer, LaidbackNikez, also didn't like xda and created his own forum. http://forum.nikez.nu
But his forum is almost dead (no new posts over a week) after he claimed that he stopped developing.
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Re: Banned

Postby tytung » Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:13 pm

I was unbanned and I could read the PM to know why I was banned.
There have been complaints about you hijacking another developer's thread to talk about your own projects and directing members to your site.
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you are not allowed to promote or discuss projects you have not posted XOA and you cannot not direct or even hint to XOA members about going to your site to find them.
......

Completed PM from a moderator

WOW! I cannot discuss CM 10.2 in another developer's thread just because I mentioned the keywords, NexusHD2 or my forum, in his thread. :lol:
Someone must be afraid of (or love) my posts/ROMs and sent the complaints to the moderators. :lol:
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Re: Banned

Postby soren » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:06 pm

This is still unclear to me. What could they possibly lose if their users go to other forums?
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Re: Banned

Postby NYLimited » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:29 pm

tytung wrote:It's almost impossible to attract people who own other devices to come to this forum.
Unless there're useful ROMs and something for them.

For example, the Desire developer, LaidbackNikez, also didn't like xda and created his own forum. http://forum.nikez.nu
But his forum is almost dead (no new posts over a week) after he claimed that he stopped developing.


The NexusHD2 is still alive though not getting any younger.

Perhaps you should create one for the Nexus 4 and another for the new Nexus 5 - both of which will likely be popular for some time.


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Re: Banned

Postby symbuzzer » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:02 pm

Maybe it is time to building a linux distro for leo and maybe we will have a HD2 Linux forum:)
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Re: Banned

Postby Robbie P » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:12 pm

soren wrote:This is still unclear to me. What could they possibly lose if their users go to other forums?

Advertising revenue I suppose, and kudos. their loss is tytung's gain. ;)

Speaking of desire and nexus 1, I am still surprised that no-one has tried NativeSD on any of their Roms. It would be worth a try using HypoTurtle's ramdisk patcher when installing and swapping initrd.gz. If I had either I would give it a go for sure.
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Re: Banned

Postby NYLimited » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:44 pm

tytung wrote:... you are not allowed to promote or discuss projects you have not posted XOA and you cannot not direct or even hint to XOA members about going to your site to find them...

WOW! I cannot discuss CM 10.2 in another developer's thread just because I mentioned the keywords, NexusHD2 or my forum, in his thread. :lol:
Someone must be afraid of (or love) my posts/ROMs and sent the complaints to the moderators. :lol:


soren wrote:This is still unclear to me. What could they possibly lose if their users go to other forums?



[ PLEASE NOTE THAT THE FOLLOWING IS ONLY AN OPINION ]


Isolationism is defined as the principle or practice of showing interest only in your own and not being involved in anything beyond it. Most often this is applied to politics and international affairs but at times it transcends to business and trade practices.

You can read about pre World War II US isolationism in “Those Angry Days” by Lynne Olson and “1940” by Susan Dunn. Both focused on the ferocious and now largely forgotten resistance Franklin D. Roosevelt had to navigate in order to stand with our allies against Hitler. Consider the alternate history if isolationism was successfully enforced and won.

Isolationism is not just an aversion to war (which is an altogether healthy instinct). It is a broader reluctance to engage, to assert responsibility, to commit. Isolationism tends to be pessimistic (we will get it wrong, we will make it worse) and amoral (it is none of our business unless it threatens us directly) and inward-looking (foreign aid is a waste of money better spent at home).

An outright ban on the mention of other sites yields conversations like this one instead of encouraging the open exchange of technical information, which is what XDA claims to be, at least partially, about.

Now, I call this enforcement rather hypocritical - and everyone is free to disagree, of course. If you were to ask me why I call it such I would suggest you do a search on XDA for the words "Android Central" and you will find about 12,800 mentions of this competing site. Searching for "github" yields some 2,780,000 results while the site "developer.android.com" yields roughly 276,000 results. We could go on but I think you can see my point. In contrast, the term which upsets people so much, "tytung.com", yields a mere 152 results on XDA.

Fear doesn't exist anywhere except in the mind.” said Dale Carnegie. Competition doesn't matter. In many cases, the more competition the better. The fear of competition is all in one's head. Simply put, competition is healthy while fear of competition is bull***t.


I am off my soapbox and finished with this topic.
Thank you for your patience!

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Re: Banned

Postby famewolf » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:53 pm

Robbie P wrote:Advertising revenue I suppose, and kudos. their loss is tytung's gain. ;)

Speaking of desire and nexus 1, I am still surprised that no-one has tried NativeSD on any of their Roms. It would be worth a try using HypoTurtle's ramdisk patcher when installing and swapping initrd.gz. If I had either I would give it a go for sure.



I wish desire hd had the option to do nativesd....I have both a hd2 and the desire hd and sometimes I think my desire hd is jealous of my hd2. ;) They've pretty much become wifi only around the house devices since I got my N4 (soon to have the N5).....I'm thinking about putting them in 2 "emergency bags" for each of my vehicles where I keep some clothes...medication etc in case something happens...never know when main phone could get broken out somewhere and you need a spare. One advantage they still have over n4 and n5 is large sd cards and using osmand+ from f-droid (online/offline gps maps app like google maps) they come in handy as gps even without internet if you've downloaded the maps for your state to sd card.
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Re: Banned

Postby tommypacker » Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:16 am

tytung wrote:It's almost impossible to attract people who own other devices to come to this forum.
Unless there're useful ROMs and something for them.

For example, the Desire developer, LaidbackNikez, also didn't like xda and created his own forum. http://forum.nikez.nu
But his forum is almost dead (no new posts over a week) after he claimed that he stopped developing.


I don't own an HD2 (I have an N1), but I think these forums are great and I joined without someone inviting me to. Maybe you could add more devices to attract other users? Just a suggestion, I'd be willing to post some of my roms here :D
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Re: Banned

Postby tommypacker » Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:47 am

Robbie P wrote:Advertising revenue I suppose, and kudos. their loss is tytung's gain. ;)

Speaking of desire and nexus 1, I am still surprised that no-one has tried NativeSD on any of their Roms. It would be worth a try using HypoTurtle's ramdisk patcher when installing and swapping initrd.gz. If I had either I would give it a go for sure.


I have an N1 that I can test with. Would you be willing to help me out with the ramdisk and initrd.gz stuff? I'm not too experienced in those respects. :)
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